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		<title>Updated Music Industry Links Pt2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Part two of our updated music industry links, as before if you think that we've missed one then just drop us a note in the comments.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part two of our updated music industry links, as before if you think that we&#8217;ve missed one then just drop us a note in the comments.</p>
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		<title>About 1,500 artists break the &#8220;obscurity line&#8221; each year. Less than 1% do it on their own &#8211; Tom Silverman</title>
		<link>http://indielab.co.uk/blog/2010/01/about-1500-artists-break-the-%e2%80%9cobscurity-line%e2%80%9d-each-year-less-than-1-do-it-on-their-own-tom-silverman/</link>
		<comments>http://indielab.co.uk/blog/2010/01/about-1500-artists-break-the-%e2%80%9cobscurity-line%e2%80%9d-each-year-less-than-1-do-it-on-their-own-tom-silverman/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indielab</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://indielab.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tommyboy-300x300.png"><img src="http://indielab.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tommyboy-300x300.png" alt="" title="tommyboy-300x300" width="300" height="300" class="alignright size-full wp-image-1146" /></a>There's a great interview with Tom Silverman from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Boy_Entertainment">Tommyboy Entertainment</a> on the <a href="http://musiciancoaching.com/">Musician Coaching</a> blog. Some of the key inflammatory quotes include... 
 
<em>In 2008 there were only 112 (albums) that sold over a quarter of a million. So if you think that the major labels only make money - they can't justify their existence at the size</em>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indielab.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tommyboy-300x300.png"><img src="http://indielab.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tommyboy-300x300.png" alt="" title="tommyboy-300x300" width="300" height="300" class="alignright size-full wp-image-1146" /></a>There&#8217;s a great interview with Tom Silverman from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Boy_Entertainment">Tommyboy Entertainment</a> on the <a href="http://musiciancoaching.com/">Musician Coaching</a> blog. Some of the key inflammatory quotes include&#8230;</p>
<p><em>In 2008 there were only 112 (albums) that sold over a quarter of a million. So if you think that the major labels only make money &#8211; they can&#8217;t justify their existence at the size they are on records that sell over a quarter of a million. A good part of those records that sell over a quarter of a million they hoped would sell over a million or two million, and only sold a half a million or less. So they overspent on them and didn’t make money on them. So those 112 records are the only records they could make money on at all. Probably 25-50% of those didn’t make money either. So only 60 releases make money, and the amount of money they make except for maybe four or five giants hits – the Lady Gaga and Black Eyed Peas level of hits – aren’t really making significant money. In the old days, one hit used to pay for 20 stiffs. Now one hit doesn’t even pay for one stiff.</em></p>
<p><em>The labels, both majors and independents are more conservative; they’re not going to take risks on artists or invest in artists just because they hear the demo and they like the songs or just because they can pack a house. That’s not enough – at least not the major labels. They need to know the artist is going somewhere between 30 and 60 miles per hour already to make an investment in it. They can’t start from scratch anymore, because so few artists are breaking.<br />
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<em>Here’s another statistic in 2008 there were 1500 releases that sold over 10,000 album units. Out of that there were only 227 of them that were artists that had broken 10,000 for the first time. So in the whole year only 227 of the artists were artists that had broken what we call the “obscurity line.” When you sell 10,000 albums, you’re no longer an obscure artist; people know about you. You may not be a star yet, but you’re in the game. That gets you out of the glut and into the game. We looked at the 227 and identified that only 14 of them were artists doing it on their own and all the rest were on majors and indies; a little more than half were on indies. And that includes Lady Gaga in that number of 227. It includes the biggest artists and ones that sold 10,000 as well, whether they sold a million or 10,001. That’s a pretty daunting number.</em></p>
<p>Full Article at<br />
<a href="http://musiciancoaching.com/music-business/state-of-the-music-industry-pt-1/">State of the Music Industry Pt1</a></p>
<p><a href="http://musiciancoaching.com/music-business/state-of-the-industry-pt-2/">State of the Music Industry Pt2</a></p>
<p><a href="http://musiciancoaching.com/music-business/state-of-the-music-industry-part-3/">State of the Music Industry Pt3</a></p>
<p><a href="http://musiciancoaching.com/music-business/state-of-the-music-industry-part-4/">State of the Music Industry Pt4</a></p>
<p>I really recommend you read the whole articles to get a full picture of Tom Silverman&#8217;s opinions and the data that he&#8217;s basing it on. The article has really touched a nerve with quite a few independent musicians and with people helping to support musicians and their work that fall outside of the mainstream reporting systems like soundscan etc. For a really good considered response then check out <a href="http://www.stevelawson.net/2010/01/quick-thoughts-on-obscurity/">Quick thoughts on obscurity</a> from Steve Lawson and <a href="http://blog.tunecore.com/2010/01/how-people-use-neilsen-to-hurt-musicians.html">How people use neilsen to hurt musicians</a> from Jeff at Tunecore. </p>
<p>Also mentioned on <a href="http://www.musicthinktank.com/blog/about-1500-artists-break-the-obscurity-line-each-year-less-t.html" target="_blank">Music Think Tank</a> , <a href="http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2010/01/nielsons-12-ibreakthough-indie-artists.html" target="_blank">Hypebot</a> , <a href="http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/012610parting/view" target="_blank">Digital Music News</a> , <a href="http://delta.techdirt.com/blog.php?tag=breaking+artists&amp;edition=techdirt" target="_blank">TechDirt,</a> <a href="http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/content_display/industry/e3ifcfd4b7c2c59dd1c822e4c1ff41221d5" target="_blank">Billboard.Biz</a> , <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13526_3-10439710-27.html" target="_blank">Cnet</a>, <a href="http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2010/01/22/the-tommy-silverman-debacle/" target="_blank">Lefsetz</a>.</p>
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		<title>Brainstorming New Models for Music Careers</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indielab</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Steve Lawson was one of the panelists at Un-Convention this year on a panel of musicians and artists who had carved out unusual careers for themselves in the ever changing music world. Steve is an extremely respected bass player who&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Lawson was one of the panelists at Un-Convention this year on a panel of musicians and artists who had carved out unusual careers for themselves in the ever changing music world. Steve is an extremely respected bass player who as well as doing session work also plays solo bass sets which he himself describes as a concept sounding more like a dare than a gig. </p>
<p>By far one of the most enagaging and genuine people I met at Un-Convention, Steve followed up the panel session with a great blog post about all the ideas he had that he hadn&#8217;t had a chance to share. Check it out&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stevelawson.net/wordpress/2009/06/brainstorming-new-models-for-music-careers/">Brainstorming new models for music careers</a></p>
<p>To see Steve performing with his loop pedals and Lobelia check out the below video. It gets gorgeously strange by the end <img src='http://indielab.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Financing The Record : Hamfatter</title>
		<link>http://indielab.co.uk/blog/2008/10/financing-the-record-hamfatter/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Indielab</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that we&#8217;ve touched upon on Indielab is how to finance your album project. We saw recently how some bands are really getting creative about finding money for recording and marketing themselves. <a href="http://www.hamfatter.net/" target="_blank">Hamfatter</a> hit up&#8230;</p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that we&#8217;ve touched upon on Indielab is how to finance your album project. We saw recently how some bands are really getting creative about finding money for recording and marketing themselves. <a href="http://www.hamfatter.net/" target="_blank">Hamfatter</a> hit up the <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/dragonsden/episodes/s6e1hamfatter.shtml" target="_blank">Dragons Den</a> for &#163;75,000 to finance the release of their next record and against all the odds actually got the money! It seems amazing that in a music industry that is hemorrhaging money with plunging sales and rapidly shrinking companies that a renowned businessman felt that this was a goer, especially after the performance on the show from the band which I’ll be honest and say I thought was like a nervous pub band.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that they sold themselves as an ongoing business concern rather than on the basis of the artistic worth of their music, which is a good lesson to learn! By emphasizing the gigs, previous sales and previous earnings they had done they managed to convince Peter Jones that his money wouldn’t just be a donation to fund their art but instead a genuine business investment that would see a return. When you are approaching record labels or other investors it’s important that you don’t just make the pitch entirely about the music unless they are the sort of person or organization who likes giving away money for free.</p>
<p><strong>Links to related articles</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://musicblog.merseyblogs.co.uk/2008/07/hamfatter_are_a_trio_from.html" target="_blank">http://musicblog.merseyblogs.co.uk/2008/07/hamfatter_are_a_trio_from.html</a></p>
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